The Luckiest $60K Cinestar HL Crash

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  1. Shaun Stanton

    Shaun Stanton Active Member

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    A friend linked a video on his facebook of a cinestar8 HL with the MOVI gimbal carrying a 35,000 dollar medium format camera clipping a tree. The actual video of the full crash was embedded w/o link. But I found this one from the cameras website. The camera is called the Phase One.

    The mishap pilot is flying backwards at a high rate and low altitude following a stunt mountain biker over several burms. As the copter nears a tree apparently the pilot misjudged the proximity of the A/C to the obstacle. The aircraft strikes the Juniper tree with the left number 7 boom. Flips perfectly lateral lands on one of the booms. You will see at 0:17 in the video. What you don't see is that the copter rolls down the hill on the tips of the booms like a wagon wheel eventually coming to a stop inverted. The 15,000 dollar Movi and the 35,000 dollar camera are saved by the copter dissipating the energy on the booms while rolling. In the video I saw the only other thing that occurred was the lipo being slung to the right of the copter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLE9CB872E193B9C84&v=Dww2nkN6siU

    This is got to be the luckiest crash with expensive stuff on board.
     
  2. Ozkan Erden

    Ozkan Erden Distributor

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    Hello Shaun,

    Thanks for the video link.

    In the video it's said that, the copter crashed while shooting behind the scenes. I think they crashed with another camera, not with Phase One.
     
  3. Steve Maller

    Steve Maller UAV Grief Counselor

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    Pilot error always somehow makes me feel better, like that's a fixable problem. In this case it looks like it was a simple case of being too anxious and accommodating to what the DP was asking for. I am pretty sure that was a RED on there for the flying scenes, because that Phase One System is stills only. Weird...the video might as well be a RED promo. ;)
     
  4. Gary Haynes

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    PhaseOne back is stills only.
     
  5. Duane Bradley

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    Must be a new Phase one then....a friend posted the video on my FB and it shows them balancing and flying with the phase one on the copter...

    See 2:26
     
  6. David Grover

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    It's our new 50MP CMOS Camera the IQ250.

    The Cinestar crashed while the RED was onboard... Luckily for us. ;)

    The idea was to shoot with the IQ on board but the crash and ultimately the weather put the stoppers on that.

    However, the shoot a still came out just fine.

    David
    Phase One.
     
  7. Duane Bradley

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    Nice of a Phase one representative to join in! Thanks David! So you did manage to get some P1 stills from the CS before flying with the Red and crashing?

    Where were you guys filming? I used to be an avid biker and remember Cam being just a young punk. Was this up in the Kamloops area of BC?
     
  8. Gary Haynes

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    And David is the man. David good to hear from you. Just to clarify for Duane, the IQ is a stills only camera. It doesn't shoot video. And for still shoots who want REALLY large files the battle is always between Hasselblad and PhaseOne.
     
  9. David Grover

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    I wasn't on the shoot sadly. But I think we only got as far as test shots with the IQ (controllable via WiFi) before the crash and the rain!

    The location was in San Diego if I recall correctly. :)
     
  10. David Grover

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    Thanks Gary.

    Yes our adversary and my ex-employer!

    We do build the iXA which is a robust aerial stills cam.
     
  11. David Grover

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    Hopefully you're using your D800 with Capture One. ;).
     
  12. David burdeny

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    Question for you David....I fly my IQ260 on a CS8 but have been afraid to turn on the wifi and possibly interfere with the Tx/RX signal. Is it safe to have the wifi on while in the air?
     
  13. Janne Hoglund

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    I used both, and for now I think the ¨battle¨part is over ;-)
    Am I not right David?
    Regards From Sweden.
     
  14. Andy Johnson-Laird

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    I can second that. I've known David since he was at Hasselblad. He knows his stuff.

    You want really large files? Shoot HDR 3-exposures per position and shoot a 360 with a Gigapan with an H4D with 100mm lens. Then edit in Photoshop and add a few layers. Ooof. Seriously large files. AMHIK.

    Andy.
     
  15. Shaun Stanton

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    What motors were on board? I thought they were Tiger 4012's until I looked that video on my 60 inch TV and saw that they look like the prototype cinestar HL. Are they?
     
  16. David Grover

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    Well, maybe thats a question for the radio experts? We run the WiFi on 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz but I can't remember if this is auto or can be manually controlled. Or its network dependant. Anyway, I will find out.

    Andy - any thoughts?

    PS - Can you share some work you have done? Would be really interested to see it.
     
  17. David Grover

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    Thanks Andy - its all smoke and mirrors. I know nothing!
     
  18. David Grover

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    Hahah. You tell me Janne!
     
  19. David Grover

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    Update!

    If you were to connect the IQ via a router where you can configure the band to be either 2.4 or 5GHz, then that would be the way to go.

    Assuming your Tx is operating on 2.4?

    D
     
  20. Shaun Stanton

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    The aircrafts RC is running 2.4, and 2.4 wifi has been causal lost links. So being to the goto 5ghz spectrum is cool and should mitigate lost link.

    Shaun
     

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