Counterweights

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  1. Lou Ruiz

    Lou Ruiz New Member

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    I just ordered mine. I understand that with this, I am able to balance the Moment Wide Lens and Moment phone case, but I would also like to add the new Moment filter adapter plus a ND filter.

    Will this counterweight set be enough?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Andy Johnson-Laird

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    Lou: that's a question that might be best answered quickly if you open up a ticket by sending an email to Freefly Support (support@freeflysystems.com).

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  3. Frank Algermissen

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    Hi all,

    question:

    looks like this large weights are much bigger than mine I got delivered about 2 weeks ago Also the line in the middle and the screw in front. Are this preproduction models? Anyone any idea? How does your counterweights look like?

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    FF fixed the really small counterweights also in front when using Moment Wide. Necessary only for the iPhone Plus models? I’m using the iPhone X.

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  4. John Woods

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    They designed the counterweights to be screwed together for the larger, heavier phones.
     
  5. Frank Algermissen

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    Ahhh, I see. This is the large + middle counterweight TOGETHER, right? Means when using an iPhone Plus model you need "more weight" why they used two.

    Thanks man to make that clear. Quickly was afraid I got the "old" version of counterweights ;-)
     

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    Hi Lou- I have this same problem. Were you able to figure out the balance with the ND filter?
     
  8. Simon Hughes

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    Brianne, just to give you a perspective, I have an iPhone 6 with exactly what you have. I have ended up using all of the weights: the long and medium together on the arms, and the small ones on both sides of the of the pan clamp.
     

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  9. Laren Elliott

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    Freefly has developed a new 410-00691 - Small Weight Counterweight Kit for the MOVI Cinema Robot that includes four more of the small counterweights including the longer 3mm bolts included.

    I worked with FREEFLY Team on this kit so that I will be able to balance out my iPhone 7 Plus plus the MOMENT filter adapter plus a HOYA Circular Polorizer plus an ND filter on UV filter stacked up. The cost is nearly 50% of the entire much larger and more difficult to engineer Movi Adjustable Counterweight system. I am trying to get the cost lowered on the Small Weight Counterweight Kit.
     
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    Did you use step up ring for filters? Have you used them and try to balance them out?
     
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    The kit is on sale yet?
     
  12. Simon Hughes

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    The Moment filter attachment has a 62mm filter thread. I use step-up rings for larger filters, or a Cokin 62mm-to-77mm adapter to mount my Hitech 4” ND filters.

    (I tried to use my variable ND, but the outside diameter is more like 82mm and consequently, entire assembly was too heavy to balance without juddering on some axis. That’s why I reverted to the Cokin solution.)
     
  13. Rick Bronks

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    Sometimes I think you guys forget it's an iPhone..
     
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  14. Rorick Edge

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    Moment has to survive somehow. So what if it means convincing people to turn their smartphone into a Rube Goldberg device :)

    More seriously, there are people, including Rick, who are making iPhone videos from which I’ve learned some things, including that it’s possible to make good videos from a smartphone without pretending that it’s the latest Arri.
     
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  15. Rick Bronks

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    Haha. I am a big supporter of shooting on an iPhone - but I think when you need to add so many accessories it might be worth saving for the next level camera up. I’d say you’ve outgrown the smartphone for filming.
     
  16. Rorick Edge

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    I don’t know if it’s the next level up, but having used the Movi with both a smartphone and a Sony RX0, I have no doubt that the latter is the right solution if one wants to use Log, seriously control shutter speed, etc.

    I’ll admit that I’m a big fan of the RX0, notwithstanding the drubbing that it’s taken from YouTube “experts”. It’s a personal decision about the cost, and how important one thinks traditional camera controls are for a tiny camera:

     
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