Charts for Tranquilizer Setup ON & OFF Black Arm all Heads

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  1. David Woods

    David Woods New Member

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    Hi All,

    David J Woods here and I'm planning the make up charts to show the setup information for the Flowcine Tranquilizer to help every one get the right setting sooner from others people that done it already.

    So please posted you info with as much details as you can.

    See Chart info as to what we are looking for.

    Thank You


    Shore 20A - 32 pcs Square inner rings: 19.5 kg / 43 lbs 7.8 kg 17.2 lbs 9.75 kg / 21.5 lbs 11.7 kg / 25.8 lbs

    Shore 20A - 24 pcs Square inner rings: 14.5 kg / 32 lbs 5.8 kg / 12.8 lbs 7.50 kg / 16 lbs 10.15 kg / 22.5 lbs

    Shore 20A - 16pcs Square inner rings: 9.75 kg / 21.5 lbs 3.9 kg / 8.6 lbs 4.90 kg / 10.8 lbs 6.8 kg / 15 lbs


    Shore 30A - 32 pcs Square inner rings: 28.0 kg / 62 lbs 11.2 kg / 24.7 lbs 14.00 kg / 31 lbs 19.6 kg / 43.2 lbs

    Shore 30A - 24 pcs Square inner rings: 21.0 kg / 46 lbs 8.4 kg / 18.5 lbs 10.50 kg / 23 lbs 14.7 kg / 32.4 lbs

    Shore 30A - 16pcs Square inner rings: 14.0 kg / 32 lbs 5.6 kg / 12.3 lbs 7.00 kg / 16 lbs 9.8 kg / 21.6 lbs

    Shore 40A - 32 pcs Square inner rings: 45.0 kg / 99 lbs 18.0 kg / 39.5 lbs 22.50 kg / 49.5 lbs 31.5 kg / 69.5 lbs

    Shore 40A - 24 pcs Square inner rings: 33.5 kg / 74 lbs 13.4 kg / 29.5 lbs 16.80 kg / 37 lbs 23.5 kg / 51.8 lbs

    Shore 40A - 16pcs Square inner rings: 22.5 kg / 49.5 lbs 9.0 kg / 20 lbs 11.25 kg / 25 lbs 15.8 kg / 34.7 lbs


    Shore 50A - 32 pcs Square inner rings: 60.0 kg / 132 lbs 24.0 kg / 53 lbs 30.00 kg / 67 lbs 42.0 kg / 92.6 lbs

    Shore 50A - 24 pcs Square inner rings: 45.0 kg / 99 lbs 18.0 kg / 39.5 lbs 22.50 kg / 49.5 lbs 31.5 kg / 69.5 lbs

    Shore 50A - 16pcs Square inner rings: 30.0 kg / 66 lbs 12.0 kg / 26.5 lbs 15.00 kg / 33 lbs 21.0 kg / 46.3 lbs


    Shore 60A - 32 pcs Square inner rings: 68.0 kg / 150 lbs 27.2 kg / 60.0 lbs 34.00 kg / 75 lbs 47.5 kg / 104.7 lbs

    Shore 60A - 24 pcs Square inner rings: 51.0 kg / 112 lbs 20.5 kg / 45.0 lbs 25.5 kg / 56 lbs 35.7 kg / 78.7 lbs

    Shore 60A - 16pcs Square inner rings: 34.0kg / 75 lbs 13.6 kg / 30.0 lbs 16.00 kg / 35 lbs 23.8 kg / 52.4 lbs

    Tranquilizer weight plate chart. Weight plates: 2 pcs: +1.2 kg / +2.6 lbs 4 pcs: +2.5 kg / +5.5 lbs 6 pcs: +3.8 kg / +8.4 lbs 8 pcs: +5.1 kg / + 11.1 lbs


    Black Arm / Boat / Car / ATV / Technocrane / Dactylcam Pro / Jimmy Jib / other ?

    Please post your setup for the Tranquilizer when using it ON and OFF the Black Arm?

    We would want the Camera Package Weight?

    What Head; MoVI XL / MoVI Pro / other?

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    Sample information we are looking for from the above list

    IE; Shore 60A 24 / 8 pcs / ON / Boat / 30lbs / MoVI XL / Camera Pkg.

    IE; Shore 60A 32 / 0 pcs / OFF / Technocrane / 30lbs / MoVI XL / Camera Pkg.

    OUR TEST CAMERA / GEAR PACKAGE
    Here is what we used with the MoVI XL to conduct our tests:

    CAMERA PACKAGE:
    RED Helium
    Canon CN 30-300mm zoom lens
    Freefly Pilot FIZ lens control w/ 3 Heden motors
    Freefly MoVI Controller
    Paralinx Tomahawk wireless video system
    Arri LMB-25 matte box
    Tiffen 4×5 ND filters
    SmallHD DP7 monitors
     

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  2. Steven Deneault

    Steven Deneault New Member

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    You’re file attachment doesn’t seem to be valid.
     
  3. Graham Futerfas

    Graham Futerfas Well-Known Member

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    On my computer, it initiated a download and ended up as a PDF in my Downloads folder.
     
  4. Steven Deneault

    Steven Deneault New Member

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    Really? Hmm. Would you be able to email me the PDF Graham? It appears to be a dead link whenever I try.

    Steven.deneault@gmail.com

    Ps. Thanks for the Facebook group suggestion. I’ve got a few feelers out regarding my Tranquilizer.
     
  5. Eric Bergez

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    hmmm...just a warning about vibration dampening when using the Tranquilizer and SHORE 60 O-Rings to compensate for the larger remote heads like the MoVI XL, G1, Libra or Jimmy Heads.

    Full disclosure, Industry Sherpa is one of the the original reseller for Flowcine and introduced the Black Arm to Hollywood back in 2012. I am also an authorized Freefly reseller, and I personally own a MoVI Pro, Ronin 2, MoVI XL and several NEWTON stabilized heads and often work with the Tranquilizer and Tranquilizer XL on a weekly basis.

    The standard Tranquilizer is designed for smaller remote heads such as the MoVI Pro and Ronin 2. Using stronger SHORE O-rings on a standard Tranquilizer to prevent the "Pancaking" effect caused by the longer back spine of the MoVI XL is a good idea but this method does reduce the overall effectiveness of the Tranquilizer's ability to reduce vibrations and does not perform to the specs set forth by Flowcine. The above chart and list of weight ranges for the various combination of SHORE O-Rings was created by Flowcine while using a MoVI Pro and I can confirm that these weight ranges and combos apply to the Ronin 2. However, different methods must be deployed when using a standard Tranquilizer with the MoVI XL or larger remote head.

    Notwithstanding the use of a Tranquilizer XL, I've found a combination of Shore 40 and/or 50 O-Rings (Depending on payload weight) combined with Shore 60 O-Rings on the two axis is the best option to prevent "Pancaking" while still obtaining proper vibration absorption.

    Some of you may have heard of my custom Over-Slung Kit for the Flowcine Tranquilizer which properly configures a stock Tranquilizer to provide vibration isolation for overslung setups (They are used on the set of Mindhunter). In this kit is a set of "T-Inserts" which are uniquely designed for the Tranquilizer, and I've found using these "T-Inserts" with a standard Tranquilizer with a MoVI XL can also prevent "Pancaking" during normal underslung operation.

    When you can, use a Tranquilizer XL to get the best results or as the Flowcine rep in LA, I suggest using a combination of O-Rings with your standard Tranq to get the best results.

    If you need more help or want to learn more about my Over-Slung Kit, send me an email and/or visit my websites:
    www.industrysherpa.com
    www.movi-xl.com
    www.blackshockarm.com

    Kind Regards,

    Eric
     
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