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Discussion in 'MōVI M10' started by Carl F. Coates, Dec 7, 2013.
What are pros and cons to using an 'easy rig'with the Movi 10
Pro: you can hold it forever without putting it down.
Con: bounce when using your feet, and resistance from above if you try to swing the movi left to right, when you're trying to avoid using your feet.
Another con - it's not easy to lift the movi above your head, with the easyrig.
While in tests I thought the Easyrig was going to be awesome with the MoVI, I found it completely unworkable in the real world. The main limitations are that you can't go from low to high smoothly, and since my Easyrig did not have the extra long arm on top, I was constantly pushing it away from my body, fighting the suspension cable the entire time.
I think if you were doing a ton of simple tracking shots at shoulder height with no need for complex moves, then it would work okay. Above-the-liners who are paying the line item though want to see sexy moves all the time. So the Easyrig is out for me.
Interesting. We've got an Easyrig and a Movi coming. I saw some demos with another brand and it looked pretty impressive. Do ya think a longer arm extension (ours is the 9" one) would help?
Yeah, I do think a longer arm would help. I would love to give it another shot with a longer one.
Any played with the Movi/Easyrig combo more?
We've got an Easyrig 3 with a 300N 9" extension arm. It works really well as long as you're moving smoothly. It's impossible to completely eliminate the vertical translation from the shot, as you'd be able to do with a steadicam, but it gives very nice smooth slow speed shots for sure. It's also perfect for if you're in a moving vehicle of some sort. It's a critical part of the equation I think. It's virtually impossible to lock off at eye height for any length of time without an easyrig. Plus it's so easy to unclip or clip to, you're still able to transfer the rig from person to person. I'm clipping to the crossbar, rather than the top handle. It seems to give a better centre of gravity and lets you put the rig a bit higher too.
I've been setup with a m10 running an epic with easyrig for about a month now and am really in love with this setup. I disagree that you can't go from low mode to high mode smoothly, it just took a different approach than what I was expecting. rather than stand straight and lift using the cable, I find that it's a lot easier to combining bending at the knees with a smaller movement on the easyrig cable itself. Just had a shot the other day starting on bike tires riding in while traveling with the bike and then transferring to full height while walking and it was smoother than the results I was getting without the easyrig.
It's also a life saver for long takes, short brakes and the fact that we will be shooting with it every day for the next 8 months!
I do agree with both Paul's and Liam's observations n tips above. I too "broke down" and bought the EZ 3 with 300N 9" extension arm (at just over $4K from 16x9). I shot a music video in Hilo, Hawaii exclusively with my MoVI, all day for about 9 hours total. The 9" extension did keep my MoVI from bumping up against my torso and saved my arms. Of course one would have to keep both hands on the MoVI's handles at all times and never just dangle the rig from the arm; even between takes, or the rig would "oscillate" by pulsing side to side on the pan axis.
Note that you do not have to keep the arm's spring-loaded hook all the way at the end of its 9" arm all the time. I found myself setting the hook inward 2"-3" from the end all the time. But it is nice to know that you have that length of play to work with.
Finally, the the Easy Rig 3 comes with a decent sized belt pouch, made of aerated poly material, wherein I could have on-hand, extra battery and always keep my Android G.U.I. tablet, for adjusting the any of the axis. You could either Velcro this onto your belt, or not, and have small items, such as these, within reach at all times.
Here is how we mod the easyrig to better work with movi. The vertical translation is a pain...but you can make long-shot at eye-level. https://www.facebook.com/4195999715...9599971509268/438190709650194/?type=3&theater
the pic is from a 6 week's feature , 98% shooted with MoVi, as you can see we extend the easyrig arm, and hang the MoVi with two strings to avoid unbalancing.
Aloha Arturo, thanks for sharing the interesting photo. Okay it is small photo but, from what I can see, you have the two strings tied, at front and rear of your Top Handle(?) This would surely get rid of the Pan's self oscillation issue. Arturo, are your two strings elastic or bungee? I am thinking this would absorb some of the vertical bounce(?)
Hi George, the two strings aren't elastic...maybe this would help, i'll try soon..