Hey Jim, Oh I don't take it as criticism at all. I had to learn to solder for this build and these were some of the first solders I had to do according to the instructions on the DVD. I plan on redoing them for sure as I got much better throughout the build. My only concern was would this cause the problems I was describing. I talked to Quadrocopter today and I think they came up with a valid cause to my issue. When I built the copter I followed Andy's instructions to the T including binding of the MX-20 however since I didn't have a DVD for the gimble receiver and it came pre-bound I did not bind it manually just left it as it came. They think that there is something out of sync and suggested I rebind both transmitters to the receivers. This makes sense since the only time I'm having the issue is after turn on the transmitters for the first flight. After that I only change batteries but the transmitters stay on until I pack up. So I am going to try this for tomorrow's test flights. In addition to that I am planning on cleaning up my early solder points as it won't hurt to make sure I have a good solid solder. I'll update to let you know how it goes or if I'm still having the problem. Thank you all very much for all your help. I'm glad this community is here to help!