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Converting my CS gimbal to a brushless gimbal

Discussion in 'Camera Mount Misc' started by Bill Collydas, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. kjetil tønnesen

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  2. kjetil tønnesen

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    one more ting here
    shall the sensor laying flat on the cameratray ??with the z in front??
     
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    Peter where did you get the boom connectors where the handle is mounted. Dont look like the normal ones! Do you have a link?

    regards
    Bison
     
  4. Peter Gøthche

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    Dó you meen the top handle?? Thats the freefly adj. Tilt rails
     
  5. Steen Jensen

    Steen Jensen Member

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    hehe - no it was the sidehandles - Just dont look like the connector on my cs gimbal
     
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    ok now it´s time to get this thing balanced:)

    when you setup the alexmosgimble do you have it hanging or do you have it standing on the bench??
     
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    haven't really followed this thread so i don't know if this has been mentioned but there is a guy out there making a conversion kit . 3d printed plastic the results are shown in the youtube video below and the details of where to buy the 3d printed parts are in the discription along with the details of where to buy the motor. currently its only a 2 axis conversion but i guess at some point the 3rd will be done too . there is no need to butcher any parts so it can be easy converted back . looked interesting to me .

     
  10. kjetil tønnesen

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    ok now i have tried to get this alexmos board to work ,but i dont get it

    i have balanced my converted cs gimble with camera
    i have also uploaded the newest firmware and flash the board and i have made the connections to the pc software,that good

    but what next
    i think the info is a bit bad
    my board has constant red and green led?? shal it be so or what??
    how shal the sensor mount on the camera tray??

    can someone tell my step by step to do her,please:)
    i use the 5208 motor and i 3 cell lipo to the board
    and one more thing,shal the lipo be connected when you have the usb plugged in??

    hope someone can help me her
    thanks
     
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    read the tuning manual.

    http://www.simplebgc.com/eng/downloads/
    have you connected to the GUI ?
    make sure board version and GUI version are the same.

    once connected, calibrate the accelerometer with or w/out camera on tray.
    then add a camera. set power values to 100 and hit write. then run 'AUTO' detection for Poles and Invert. Double check the poles number given with what you count.
    then start tuning PID and refine power values.
    as far as PID values go, in my experience, they are all over the place depending on firmware version, camera, and now with 2.0 the low/high frequency option. furthermore, even different boards (csg shop vs. flyduino), have produced way different results. even though it's the same firmware, there have been major differences in PID values with the same camera. I haven't had much luck with the flyduino board.
     
  12. Bill Collydas

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    @Kjetil
    Mount the IMU on the battery tray flat.
    The molex connector should be on the right.
    Connect with the usb start the software connect to the board via the com port that's available.
    Then connect the main battery.
    If you don't connect the main battery the USB don't have enough power to move the motors and they will jitter.
    Hold the camera and gimbal horizontal and hit "CALB" then hit write.
    From here you have to paly with the PID settings to get it to work.
    Also is this is a new board you have to update the firmware.
    You have to download the Xloader from the Alexmos page.
    After updating it will say "update failed" that's ok now you should see the board firmware on the GUI when you connect.
    I hope this helps.
    There's a thread on RCG about all these questions.
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1815204&page=342

    Cheers
     
  13. kjetil tønnesen

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    thanks for good help bill and sean:)

    you said the molex to the right ,when you stand behind the gimble?
     
  14. kjetil tønnesen

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    ok now i get it working:)
    thanks bill and sean

    when i roll the gimble from side to side it does not hold vell,and if a do it slow it hold better to the right then left?
     
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    correct. or on the left if looking from the front.

    if it doesn't hold position, start by increasing the P gain.

    this link might have some useful info for you. keep in mind that numbers will vary drastically depending on each camera, firmware version and motors. and those initial values were for a gopro. nonetheless, it may help you tune. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1815204&page=114#post24435592
     
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    And check your motors make sure they don't get hot. If they do reduce the power.
     
  18. kjetil tønnesen

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    how mutch power do you have on your motors,i think we have the same one
     
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    I start with 100 and go up from there. If is too much they start vibrating.
     
  20. Josh Lambeth

    Josh Lambeth Well-Known Member

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    Bill any updates on your conversion?

    Josh
     

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