Briefcase mode for The XL

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  1. Oli Harris

    Oli Harris New Member

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    I would like to use the Movi XL in briefcase mode off the end of a techno crane. does anyone have any tips or tricks for this.
    I really just want to look straight down at maximum height.
    Or even to use it in Matrix mode like on the promo video when it was attached to the Kuka robot.

    I tested mounting point rotation (like the M7 Head ) and the Movi didn't like it much

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Gabriel Camacho

    Gabriel Camacho New Member

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    You nose mounted the XL?? Any success?? I was trying that the other day. It needs to be turned on in over or underslung mode
     
  3. Gabriel Camacho

    Gabriel Camacho New Member

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    What do you mean briefcase mode?
     
  4. Oli Harris

    Oli Harris New Member

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    Movi and ronin all had a mode where you hold the bar on its side and the first axis becomes the roll and the second becomes pan and the tilt remains tilt
    On the release video for the Movi xl it is seen to move through a window frame in this mode, like this Mvi xl briefcase mode.png
     
  5. Matias Mesa

    Matias Mesa New Member

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    One thing is transitioning through that mode and a much different one is operating in that mode, I dont think the XL like to change functions on its axis unlike other standard heads. Im sure if would go bananas if you tell the XL that the tilt is now the pan, etc....
     
  6. Oli Harris

    Oli Harris New Member

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    I'm assuming it would work as you could on the m15 etc
    It was a great selling point for me to be able to do this
    anyway see how things go
     
  7. Oli Harris

    Oli Harris New Member

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    Have you seen the cyberstore digital instagram post today?
    Looks like movi haven't got their complete shit together re the pointing but basically working through briefcase mode to over and under slung

    With regards to "telling the movi" about the mount frame change, it should know where that is based of its reference frame, I mean Alexmos could do it, and these guys basically started from there

    looks promising

    will keep trying
     
  8. Bryan Edmonds

    Bryan Edmonds Chief MōVI Whisperer

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    We were intrigued by this post, so we looked into it!

    After mounting a MōVI XL to our robot, we concluded the following:
    • The XL can be used in the nose mount orientation when it is booted normally (gimbal up/down) and then armed in the nose mount orientation.
    • The MōVI Controller is the preferred controller for this application, but if you do try the MIMIC, we recommend Majestic MIMIC with high smoothing and a large window.
     
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  9. Graham Futerfas

    Graham Futerfas Active Member

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    Thanks Bryan, a couple of us were talking about this mode with someone who was testing it on a Movi Pro, and they wanted the Pan Motor to become the Roll axis (so it could Roll 360 degrees), but the Movi Controller Joystick wouldn't work that way. The Pan and Roll axis swapped automatically somehow, and Pan remained Pan, maybe due to the Gyros\sensors?

    Anyway, they were only able to get it to Roll that way by using the Mimic.

    I worked on a Movi XL shot a few months ago that needed to mount the Movi at a 45-degree angle on an I-beam rig the grips made, and the Movi XL would not boot on that angle. We had to put it on a level tripod, boot it up, put the motors to sleep, then move it to the angled rig and wake the motors up.
     
  10. Bryan Edmonds

    Bryan Edmonds Chief MōVI Whisperer

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    Axis translation is normal, but I would have to rig this up and try it. Our testing for nose mounting was specifically regarding MōVI XL.

    Yes, that is what I meant by booting it in a traditional orientation (up or down position) and then mounting or moving the system to an alternate position before arming the motors. The MōVI XL requires up/down position for boot, as a safety precaution and part of the initialization sequence.
     
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  11. Oli Harris

    Oli Harris New Member

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    great stuff you guys
    basically the poorman's space cam
    excellent
     
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