MoVI XL and FlowCine Black Arm

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  1. Dylan Law

    Dylan Law Member

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    Hey All,

    Just wondering what people are planning on for Vibration Mount Size #2 or #3??

    Any thoughts would be great.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Juan Lima

    Juan Lima New Member

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    Hi Dylan. I'm the testes of the
    Hi Dylan. Im currently beta tester of some of the Flowcine products. I been testing the new Tranquilizer antivibration mount. Can say that is a huge improvement from traditional wire mounts. There is a new Tranquilize XL on the way as well as a Dual Black Arm options that fits the needs for big setups. No matter that. Black Arm with dual springs can handle 64lb and regular tranquilizer with 60A shore duros fits the needs for MoVI XL as well. I dont understand what you mean with #2 or #3 so dont know if this helps you. Let me know any doubts or questions you have about Black Arm.

    Any questions about how to rig, calibrate Black Arm or prep tranquilizer for different kind of jobs I will glad to help or guide you about the process.

    Best
     
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  3. Grant Appleotn

    Grant Appleotn New Member

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    Hi Juan,

    Do you perhaps know the weight ranges the tranquilizer XL and Dual Black arms will be able to handle, also when will these products be available to order? Im ordering the Movi XL system but I would also like to use other various remote heads with the arm. Would you recommend waiting for these new products to become available?
    Thank You,
    Grant
     
  4. Juan Lima

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    Tranquilizer XL and Dual Black around 64Kg (128lbs). Maybe announced at Cinegear. Check Black Arm extention block also ;)
     
  5. Jan Schuster

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    Hi Juan, I've been seeing a lot of car/truck rig setups that utilize roof racks as a mounting point for stabilization pipes. Then I came across this picture of the Ram truck with just a front hitch, high hat and some ratchet straps. (see pic below) - would you recommend this Ram setup or should I be utilizing the roof mount points for extra stability?

    I also like the fact that the height of the pole can go much higher than the truck roof which is ideal if needed.

    Thanks for your help
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  6. Juan Lima

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    I definitely recommend to use more points of connection. Use truck roof. There is something called resonance that will affect that kind of setups. Once get more high the problem will become more evident. Black arm with Tranquilizer can manage that but you get the best of the system if you use more points.

    Take this as an examples: Photo 1:
    Truck is good but we have short time to add more points. That's a good start anyway.
    Photo 2 and 3:
    Polaris here is a good example as perfect grip technique for this jobs. I'm not only uses many point but also a lot of bars in parallel and cross.

    From photo 1 to 2 and 3 all works from nice to real good. You can use the grip style on your photo but if you want to get the best this are good examples I can show you. For MoVI XL definitely try to go like polaris example.

     

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  7. Jan Schuster

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    Thanks Juan,

    I had a feeling that more mounting points would be better for stabilization. I just saw that Ram post and thought maybe there's an easier solution.

    I do agree that more bars for mounting points and stability is ideal. I guess that's what I need to look at... I haven't used a black arm yet but am looking at what it takes to get into it.

    What if the main bar went above the supporting roof bars (ie no support above the black arm only lower) Would that create unwanted vibration as well? I'm just thinking for shots where you'd want to be 10ft+ in the air..
     
  8. Juan Lima

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    Black will do the job that way but you will get a lot of resonance to solve as well a lot of stress over that bar. I will don't recommend go that way. More high you go better structure you need for a good and safely job ;)

     
  9. Jan Schuster

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    10-4. I figured as much, just wanted to confirm. Appreciate all the help. I will message you with more questions in the future I'm sure!
     
  10. Juan Lima

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    Here for help
     

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